summersdreamer ([info]summersdreamer) wrote,
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Ew.

I swore I wasn't going to post about this subject, but it bothers me enough that I need to write about it. I usually find that, after I've written about an issue that disturbs me, I can let it go. It's not serious or at all personal, so don't worry. :P

Yesterday, I was looking for necklace patterns on the Internet, and I came across this disturbing guide to seducing women. One of its techniques is called the stone necklace pattern, and, as I clicked on it, I went "Ooh, I have some rose quartz that I want to use for . . . OMG, you are kidding me! Some men actually believe that shit works?"

This guide bothers me for unspecifiable reasons. I think it might be because I find it profoundly depressing as a feminist, a woman and a human being. Much of it seems to be written by bitter men who don't appear actually to like women very much, and who see relationships and sex as a means of getting back at them. They present themselves as "nice guys" who never get laid because women are either "only interested in looks, money and status" or "bitches who play mindgames and test them the entire time." Their solution is to lie, concoct stories, play distasteful games, and generally treat women badly. Apparently, these techniques get them sex of both the vanilla and more exotic varieties.

Plus, in the guide, they present sex as a commodity, rather than any expression of love, emotional involvement or intimacy. Women are the suppliers who are holding out on them, and men have to trick them into giving it to them.

I think that's just such a depressing construction of human relationships, let alone relationships between the sexes. I wish I could tell those men that alternatives do exist, that men and women can be friends, that you can really like and respect your partner, that they'd be happier for doing so. :(

Now, I am running late for karate, but I do feel better. :P

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[info]ciardhapagan

April 5 2006, 17:14:47 UTC 6 years ago

Any man who calls himself a "nice guy" and thinks about women that way isn't, he's an asshole. To actually write it out makes him even more of one. This is why as Ginmar has dubbed such creatures "PrinceSensitiveStallon" get rejected by women. Even the pseudo feminists "PrincessSparklePony" often rejects such losers in real life, although they'll pretend to be their allies online againist real feminists who call them on their asshole attitudes. Ginmar deals with both types trolling her live journal whenever she makes a feminist post.

[info]summersdreamer

April 6 2006, 06:57:36 UTC 6 years ago

Hah. That is a good title for such men. My personal opinion on them is that they're in such extreme denial that they genuinely believe that they have a great deal to offer a woman and that they're being rejected for arbitary reasons. After all, it's far easier to blame another person than to look at your own behaviour patterns and attitudes, and make an effort to change them.

[info]chelsikins

April 6 2006, 15:15:07 UTC 6 years ago

They really need this poster from despair.com:

dysfunction

[info]malathion

April 5 2006, 21:25:30 UTC 6 years ago

Haha funny, I was just reading that.

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[info]chelsikins

April 5 2006, 23:18:52 UTC 6 years ago

Phil, I have I told you lately what a great guy you are? Karen's a lucky girl. :)

[info]summersdreamer

April 6 2006, 08:10:43 UTC 6 years ago

The whole philosophy behind that site strikes me as tremendously stupid. If your primary relationship goal is to secure access to sex, it makes far more sense to have a long-term relationship with a person, rather than a series of one night stands. Contrary to popular belief, surveys have shown that married men get the most. After members of KISS, of course. Gene Simmons has more sex than the rest of the world combined. >_>

Of course, I suspect the goal of most of the guys on that site is to have as many notches on the bedpost as possible, so that you can boast about being a stud who has bedded hundreds of women. I don't think that's any measure of manhood myself, because it strikes me as being a little childish. "I have a piece of candy!" "So? I have ten!" "Ha! I have fifty!"

Finally, as I'm sure you must know, I don't associate you with that particular subset of men at all. I saw how you treated your ex, and it was the polar opposite of that sort of bullshit. I was always a little envious of her for that reason. I really believe she didn't know how lucky she was to have a person like you. Definitely her loss. ^_^;;
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